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I ask this dumb question because I assume no one would have been dumb enough to remove that ability in an "upgraded" version of a software package...
Just got another dedicated server. It came with Plesk 9.x. I restored my domains from another server, and upgraded to Plesk 10. I assumed this was safe, because all my earlier upgrades on earlier Plesk versions have been fine.
I obviously must have been out of my mind, because so far Plesk 10 is driving me crazy. Everything that used to be simple has now turned into a multi-window affair, with "Service Plans", "Subscriptions, and "Domain Control Panels". I used to have the ability to control all my domains from simply a single admin level account.
I own all the domains running on this server, I don't need all this overhead, I don't need to have to be kicked into a separate control panel window to get to touch the domains. The PowerUser option mentioned in some other thread sounds like it would have been the option for me, but since the server automatically came with Plesk 9, and was upgraded with existing domains, I apparently do not have that option. As it was reported, if you once tried to use this new Plesk 10 and allowed your data into it, you are forever locked into this complex structure, unless you want to uninstall and reinstall everything.
In addition to all this, I now have the question of "what happened to the 'list all domains and subdomains' option", which can show what is actually under plesk control on this server. It must be there in Plesk 10, with me unable to find it, because everything I have found so far is LYING about what is under nameserver control.
If you as a server admin click "Domains" in Plesk 9.x and earlier, you get to a simple, searchable list of domains, where I earlier controlled everything from.
That screen have a dropdown selection under heading "Show", where you can select "With subdomains and aliases", which expanded the domain list to show everything in an easy overview.
In Plesk 10.x, clicking "Domains" in the sidebar provides an extreme dumb/simple list with links to the Control Panels for each, with NO ability to expand to see all the domain aliases and subdomains. This effectively hides about half of my information, unless I open the Control Panel for each domain and click my way 4-5 or more clicks into each of them to see what is there. Plus, if you need to control a domain alias, you have to figure out the domain it is aliased to, and which Control Panel to use. (I have some data-service domains, with no web-site, so it is not immediately obvious where the alias landed a year+ ago). Endless clicking around as a result.
Or one can skip Plesk 10 altogether to jump out in the command like to look at the Named configuratiuon files directly, which is not for everyone and is still kind of hunt and peck.
Even if this nutty Plans/Subscriptions/Domains/alias structure had any meaning to me (if I was selling services), there is still no place I have found where I can see a list of all the domains (including aliases and subdomains) under plesk control; preferably in a nice tree structure like in Plesk 8 or 9. The whole name server configuration seems to be entirely hidden, except from a Unix command line.
If I was selling Plans and subscriptions, I would still want to have a way to see all domains controlled by my server, by all my "customers or resellers" (of which I have none). The current "Domains" list seem to hide all that.
So far I see Plesk 10 as a step backwards. From a way to control a server (and add hosting sales if you want), it seems to have turned itself into purely a "Hosting Sales" interface, losing good parts of the ability to know what is going on with the server, plus everything that used to be simple now seems to take an endless hunt-and-peck session, with multiple windows/control panels needed.
Whats that all about?????
We NEEEED a way to convert the Mammoth structure into a PowerUser setup, even after it has been initially set up with the cumbersome hosting control setup it has now.
Just got another dedicated server. It came with Plesk 9.x. I restored my domains from another server, and upgraded to Plesk 10. I assumed this was safe, because all my earlier upgrades on earlier Plesk versions have been fine.
I obviously must have been out of my mind, because so far Plesk 10 is driving me crazy. Everything that used to be simple has now turned into a multi-window affair, with "Service Plans", "Subscriptions, and "Domain Control Panels". I used to have the ability to control all my domains from simply a single admin level account.
I own all the domains running on this server, I don't need all this overhead, I don't need to have to be kicked into a separate control panel window to get to touch the domains. The PowerUser option mentioned in some other thread sounds like it would have been the option for me, but since the server automatically came with Plesk 9, and was upgraded with existing domains, I apparently do not have that option. As it was reported, if you once tried to use this new Plesk 10 and allowed your data into it, you are forever locked into this complex structure, unless you want to uninstall and reinstall everything.
In addition to all this, I now have the question of "what happened to the 'list all domains and subdomains' option", which can show what is actually under plesk control on this server. It must be there in Plesk 10, with me unable to find it, because everything I have found so far is LYING about what is under nameserver control.
If you as a server admin click "Domains" in Plesk 9.x and earlier, you get to a simple, searchable list of domains, where I earlier controlled everything from.
That screen have a dropdown selection under heading "Show", where you can select "With subdomains and aliases", which expanded the domain list to show everything in an easy overview.
In Plesk 10.x, clicking "Domains" in the sidebar provides an extreme dumb/simple list with links to the Control Panels for each, with NO ability to expand to see all the domain aliases and subdomains. This effectively hides about half of my information, unless I open the Control Panel for each domain and click my way 4-5 or more clicks into each of them to see what is there. Plus, if you need to control a domain alias, you have to figure out the domain it is aliased to, and which Control Panel to use. (I have some data-service domains, with no web-site, so it is not immediately obvious where the alias landed a year+ ago). Endless clicking around as a result.
Or one can skip Plesk 10 altogether to jump out in the command like to look at the Named configuratiuon files directly, which is not for everyone and is still kind of hunt and peck.
Even if this nutty Plans/Subscriptions/Domains/alias structure had any meaning to me (if I was selling services), there is still no place I have found where I can see a list of all the domains (including aliases and subdomains) under plesk control; preferably in a nice tree structure like in Plesk 8 or 9. The whole name server configuration seems to be entirely hidden, except from a Unix command line.
If I was selling Plans and subscriptions, I would still want to have a way to see all domains controlled by my server, by all my "customers or resellers" (of which I have none). The current "Domains" list seem to hide all that.
So far I see Plesk 10 as a step backwards. From a way to control a server (and add hosting sales if you want), it seems to have turned itself into purely a "Hosting Sales" interface, losing good parts of the ability to know what is going on with the server, plus everything that used to be simple now seems to take an endless hunt-and-peck session, with multiple windows/control panels needed.
Whats that all about?????
We NEEEED a way to convert the Mammoth structure into a PowerUser setup, even after it has been initially set up with the cumbersome hosting control setup it has now.
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