Question Plesk obsdian is ready to AlmaLinux?

[hardbrasil]

Hi fellas, AlmaLinux said that they are 1:1 to rhel
but i would like to hear about Plesk team if i can use this for production-ready.

as many of you know centos will be continued until the end of this year 2021,

thanks

 

[IgorG]

Question - CentOS is shifting focus from CentOS 8 to CentOS Stream

Why do you say CentOS 7 is "old software" its a current release and supported until 2024. Its still early and there are alot of changes happening so I think Plesk are being smart and not committing to any one path just yet.

talk.plesk.com

 

[Sopherl]

Question - CentOS is shifting focus from CentOS 8 to CentOS Stream

Why do you say CentOS 7 is "old software" its a current release and supported until 2024. Its still early and there are alot of changes happening so I think Plesk are being smart and not committing to any one path just yet.

talk.plesk.com

CentOS 7 yes but not Version 8. For these who already are on CentOS 8 a downgrade is not the answer. CentOS Stream is not a solution for product using. I have the same question. Will Plesk be compatible to Alma Linux? Actually its not possible to install plesk on a Alma RC.

 

[Bitpalast]

@Sopherl As you may have seen in the thread that IgorG has referred to, Plesk is still in the process of determining what to do. There is just not enough information on alternatives yet, so a decision cannot yet be made.

 

[IgorG]

Official information about the new supported OS will be published soon.

 

[psupport]

Official information about the new supported OS will be published soon.

Have you looked into supporting the 1:1 binary switch from CentOS to AlmaLinux repositories? Would hate to perform another migration since we just migrated all our clients from CentOS 6 to CentOS 8.

 

[Arch Linux]

As many of us should be aware, CentOS is being discontinued, with an 'end of life' (EOL) currently scheduled for December 2021 of this year for CentOS 8. With CentOS 7 being offered extended support in only 3 short years (2024).

openSUSE Leap 15.3, the Linux distribution SUSE released in beta last week, represents a departure for the German software maker in that it's nearly identical to its commercial distribution, the one that makes it money. It's also a good candidate for replacing CentOS, the free Linux distribution that's been popular among enterprises which Red Hat, its developer, is now planning to stop supporting.

Leap will no longer be merely based on the source code of SUSE Linux Enterprise. It will share the exact same binaries. This means that with its next stable release, in June, there will essentially be no difference between the free-to-use community distribution and SLE, which requires registration and a paid support contract to use in production.

Leap was created in 2015 as a counterpart to openSUSE's flagship community distribution, Tumbleweed, which sits upstream and is used as a testing ground for SLE. While Tumbleweed is a rolling release and uses the latest, cutting-edge software releases, Leap sits downstream of SUSE Enterprise, with a traditional release schedule and a conservative approach to software that eschews the cutting edge over stability.

This is similar to Red Hat's traditional approach with CentOS and Fedora, where CentOS sits downstream of Red Hat Enterprise Linux as a freely available clone based on the same source code, while Fedora, until recently, sitting immediately upstream tasked with being RHEL's testing ground.

But while Red Hat has decided to reposition downstream CentOS (renaming it CentOS Stream in the process) to sit upstream, between Fedora and RHEL, as the new testing platform, SUSE has decided to double down on its free downstream counterpart by making it something of an identical twin of its commercial distribution.

I have been using both Open SUSE and Enterprise SUSE for years. It is rock solid. I have not found a single RPM on CentOS or Red Hat that could not load and install on SUSE. Migrating from CentOS to SUSE was so easy and effortless you'll forget you're using SUSE.

I respectfully request that the Plesk development consider future support for SUSE.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

Input - Support for SUSE Linux (both openSUSE and Enterprise SUSE)

As many of us should be aware, CentOS is being discontinued, with an 'end of life' (EOL) currently scheduled for December 2021 of this year for CentOS 8. With CentOS 7 being offered extended support in only 3 short years (2024). openSUSE Leap 15.3, the Linux distribution SUSE released in beta...

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[Arch Linux]

AlmaLinux is new and is still unproven long-term. AlmaLinux OS

I would be interested in watching it mature before it was considered. I am not opposed to the possible adaptation in the future. I believe any new development that happens to spring up due to CentOS's demise must first prove itself over time.

 

[IgorG]

I respectfully request that the Plesk development consider future support for SUSE.

Once upon a time, I used OpenSUSE for a long time, and I know firsthand that this is an excellent Linux distribution. And once Plesk supported SUSE. But unfortunately, its market share was negligible and remained.
I do not think that from a business point of view, it will be justified to spend company resources on maintaining a Linux distribution with a deficient percentage of the market share.
When its share of the operating system market becomes noticeable, we will definitely consider the possibility of supporting it.

 

[Arch Linux]

Once upon a time, I used OpenSUSE for a long time, and I know firsthand that this is an excellent Linux distribution. And once Plesk supported SUSE. But unfortunately, its market share was negligible and remained.
I do not think that from a business point of view, it will be justified to spend company resources on maintaining a Linux distribution with a deficient percentage of the market share.
When its share of the operating system market becomes noticeable, we will definitely consider the possibility of supporting it.

Those people are going to migrate elsewhere and likely to another RPM-type package distro. At the moment, the time of this writing, besides Red Hat, which CentOS users were not paying for, to begin with, SUSE is the only stable mainstream alternative. It will be disappointing if you abandon your customers to hang in the wind. cPanel is already looking to the future. Is your plan to drag your feet?

I am honestly confused by your stance on this.

It would be a profitable business to see Plesk adopt mature distribution for its consideration when replacing CentOS and picking a distribution that already offers what was lost in losing CentOs. I believe any new development that happens to spring up due to CentOS's demise must first prove itself over time. It would, after all, be a poor choice to pick something new in development and unproven. SUSE already has a solid, proven track record.

 

[psupport]

AlmaLinux is new and is still unproven long-term. AlmaLinux OS

I would be interested in watching it mature before it was considered. I am not opposed to the possible adaptation in the future. I believe any new development that happens to spring up due to CentOS's demise must first prove itself over time.

AlmaLinux OS is built by the creators of the established CloudLinux OS, which is already supported by Plesk. CloudLinux OS has been in place for over ten years. More than 4,000 companies including Dell, Liquid Web, and 1&1 rely on the CloudLinux OS across more than 200,000 product installations. CloudLinux has proven experience in creating and maintaining a RHEL fork and have done so starting with RHEL release 5, right through to release 8. AlmaLinux OS - Forever-Free Enterprise-Grade Operating System

 

[weltonw]

OpenSUSE is not 1:1 RHEL - meaning, there would be significant dev/QA/testing costs to making sure it works on OpenSUSE. Most users on CentOS 7 will not be migrating to OpenSUSE - it's much more likely that they migrated to a binary 1:1 clone, ie Rocky/Alma - therefore, I see why it doesn't make sense for Plesk to devote resources to OpenSUSE - there simply aren't enough production environments actively using it.

 

[IgorG]

AlmaLinux OS support for new installations!

 

[canadamcpherson]

AlmaLinux OS support for new installations!

Hi Igor,

On this page (Software Requirements for Plesk Obsidian) I see Alma Linux is listed without any asterisks (*). However, there are asterisks (*) beside Linux 8. The explanations for the asterisks beside Linux 8 says : "**** - Plesk supports CentOS 8, however, a number of limitations exist."

Since there is no asterisks beside Alma Linux, should I assume that there are no limitations with Alma Linux?

Looking forward to your reply.

 

[Sopherl]

Hi Igor,

On this page (Software Requirements for Plesk Obsidian) I see Alma Linux is listed without any asterisks (*). However, there are asterisks (*) beside Linux 8. The explanations for the asterisks beside Linux 8 says : "**** - Plesk supports CentOS 8, however, a number of limitations exist."

Since there is no asterisks beside Alma Linux, should I assume that there are no limitations with Alma Linux?

Looking forward to your reply.

Hi!

On Almalinux version 8.4 (Electric Cheetah) Kernel 4.18.0-240.22.1.el8_3.x86_64 and Pesk Obsidian 18.0.35 Update 2

- Docker is not working, only remote nodes
- Watchdog now is working
- No Webalizer only awstats

 

[canadamcpherson]

Hi!

On Almalinux version 8.4 (Electric Cheetah) Kernel 4.18.0-240.22.1.el8_3.x86_64 and Pesk Obsidian 18.0.35 Update 2

- Docker is not working, only remote nodes
- Watchdog now is working

Thank you Sopherl. I am still waiting for Igor to answer this question.

 

[Pleskie]

Thank you Sopherl. I am still waiting for Igor to answer this question.

I am not Igor and do not have his knowledge. But I can tell you that Plesk is running fine on AlmaLinux.

 

[canadamcpherson]

I am not Igor and do not have his knowledge. But I can tell you that Plesk is running fine on AlmaLinux.

Thank you for your reply. Do you also see the limitations mentioned by Sopherl?

 

[Pleskie]

Thank you for your reply. Do you also see the limitations mentioned by Sopherl?

I see @Sopherl mentioned something about Docker. Yesterday I received a notification that Docker was available for install, but I do not use Docker so I can't answer that question.

As you can read on their website AlmaLinux is "a 1:1 binary compatible RHEL fork". So in fact you are installing a free version of RHEL which is supported until at least 2029. So far everything seems to be working fine. I am glad there is now a decent substitute for CentOS 8. If I were you I would just give it a try and see what happens.

 

[canadamcpherson]

@Pleskie Thanks my friend. Would you mind sharing the notification about Docker? I looked into the change log. I could see nothing about Docker on Alma. I use docker, so docker is important for me.