Upgrade Path 8.1 --> 10 on Fedora Core 1

[futureweb]

Hello,

we use Plesk 8.1 on an old Fedora Core 1 server. What would be the preferred way to upgrade this installation to Plesk 10?
We need PHP 4 on this Server as lot's of the old customer applications won't work with PHP 5.

Hope someone can help us on this!

Bye
Andreas

 

[IgorG]

Fedora Core is not supported OS for Plesk 10. Therefore I suggest you install Plesk 10 on fresh server and migrate your Plesk 8.1 server to new with Plesk Migration Manager or backup/restore procedure. More details you can find in Plesk documentation here http://www.parallels.com/products/plesk/documentation/

 

[futureweb]

well, but as you discussed with others on the forum, migration manager doesn't migrate everything,
it seems there are troubles with email settings (forwards) that are lost, IMAP data that is lost, Horde Data....

This makes it impossible to use the migration manager for us.
You suggested to someone to install old plesk on a new server, use the backup and restore and upgrade to the new plesk to avoid dataloss.

that's why we are asking for the upgrade path.

but we are open for any suggestion.

thanks

 

[IgorG]

You can try migrate one-two domains for testing first.

 

[lhwparis]

@IgorG think the known migration manager problems (imap folders lost, mail aliases not working, mail forward adresses lost, not migrating .* (.htaccess) files and so on) are all operation system independent because the are confirmed by users with different operating system.

 

[futureweb]

Thats why I meant is there a upgrade path, like
first go from 8.1 to newest 8 built, then to like 9.5, then to 10.0.1, or should upgrade go directly go from 8.1 -> 10.0.1.
(after backup/restore 8.1 from fc1 to centos 4 for instance to have php 4 and a supported plesk 10 os.)

 

[lhwparis]

Is it very important to update? if not wait for Plesk Bugfix release i hope all these bugs will be fixed soon. Than you can use a clean 10.x installation and migrate your data.

@IgorG is a bugfix release in developement? will it fix this migration manager problems?

 

[futureweb]

I thought it's imporant because of the proftp issue. But according this: http://www.parallels.com/products/plesk/ProFTPD
Plesk 8 seems not to be affected.

 

[IgorG]

We permanently work on migration improving, it is our headache...

 

[lhwparis]

Thats right plesk 8.x is NOT affected. So stay with your 8.x a Few more days and then do a clean migration to 10.x when Igors headache is over

 

[atomicturtle]

Plesk 8's proftpd is effected, just by other security issues:

http://secunia.com/advisories/search/?search=proftpd

 

[IgorG]

http://forum.parallels.com/showpost.php?p=428953&postcount=107

 

[futureweb]

well - i guess the updated ProFtp RPMs won't work on Fedora Core 1? ;-)

for the migration manager - will it work within days/weeks or will it take several months to fix all problems? (one other problem I noticed is that external Database Connections won't be migrated ... it just takes the data from the external DB Server and inserts them as local databases ... makes not much sense - because all the web-Applications hosted on the Server will still connect to the external DB Servers ...)

Would this be a possible solution for the migration from FC1 Plesk 8.1.1 to Plesk 10: Backup the whole Plesk Server on FC1 - reinstall 8.1.1 on a Centos 4 (because of the needed PHP4) - import the whole backup and then update the 8.1.1 Server to Plesk 10? Would this work? Does the "full plesk backup" also include all external DBs, all IMAP folders and everything else? Or is there another way to bring this Server up to date?

Thank you

 

[lhwparis]

(one other problem I noticed is that external Database Connections won't be migrated ... it just takes the data from the external DB Server and inserts them as local databases ... makes not much sense - because all the web-Applications hosted on the Server will still connect to the external DB Servers ...)

please open a new thread with this informations so developers can fix it: http://forum.parallels.com/showthread.php?t=106113

your upgrade way: sounds ok try it. in a full backup all these things should be integrated.

 

[futureweb]

alright - filled a bug report!

as for the Question - do you know if really EVERYTHING gets backuped on a "plesk full backup"?
All imap folders, external connections, etc. etc. etc.

Thank you

 

[lhwparis]

i think yes. i have done a complete restore with 8.6 one year ago. i missed nothing.
to be shure setup a testserver with plesk trial version try your restore there and check everything is available

 

[futureweb]

Well - the "full backup" migration path won't work ...
no chance on installing Plesk 8.1.1 on Centos 4.8 - too much version missmatches with the RPMs. (seems like 8.1.1 was designed to work on Centos 4.3)
Guess we wait until the Migration Manager of Plesk 10 is stable and then migrate the old server ... hope this will happen fast! ;-)

Thanks for all your help!