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Cedric Leblanc
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Can we mix Windows and Linux server on the Management ?
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No, you can't.
malfunction
Basic Pleskian
Isn't that coming in update #2? https://docs.plesk.com/en-US/17.0/m...delivering-plesk-multi-server-features.77464/
malfunction
Basic Pleskian
That isn't really clear from the documentation, so we'd need two management servers, one for each platform? If that's the case, then it's extra important that mail can be centralized with a single mail server handling mail accounts from both platforms. Otherwise we are running two of everything and that isn't really a whole lot better than what we do now with a few standalone Plesk installations.
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Please do this. This would be very helpful and frankly I was under the impression that this would come with Plesk Onyx. With the current state, the multiserver does not seem to be very useful.
This WILL be a deal breaker for a lot of people. What is the point of a Multi server deployment if you can't support both Windows and Linux hosting customers?
To require a separate management node + DNS servers + Mail servers all just for Windows hosting is just not going to make sense either from a management / support perspective or from a financial / licensing perspective.
Many people will be looking to move from Plesk Automation or other platforms like Hsphere where central Mail / Database / DNS servers with either a linux or windows hosting node depending on the customers requirements is fundamental to how we do things.
Please give this due consideration when deciding your roadmap.
To require a separate management node + DNS servers + Mail servers all just for Windows hosting is just not going to make sense either from a management / support perspective or from a financial / licensing perspective.
Many people will be looking to move from Plesk Automation or other platforms like Hsphere where central Mail / Database / DNS servers with either a linux or windows hosting node depending on the customers requirements is fundamental to how we do things.
Please give this due consideration when deciding your roadmap.
tobias888
New Pleskian
this will be a deal breaker for my boss. why we are investing time in plesk is what we want a all in selution. and if plesk dosent allow us to mix windows and linux servers is a no go becouse we got both of them and running one linux and one windows management isent viable. tho the windows mail service and linux webhosting is going to be a maybe.
Stumbled on this thread and surprised to read the roadmap entry of "Windows platform support" means that we would need a complete separate installation of Multi-Server on Windows nodes? For 1 or maybe 2 Windows servers why not just use regular Plesk?
malfunction
Basic Pleskian
I really can't understand why they don't plan to support a mixed infrastructure, seems like a crazy design decision that vastly reduces the utility of Multi Server for a small host (and thus vastly reduces sales of the extension).
If, as it appears, the management node is just issuing commands to the service nodes using the Plesk API and redirecting users, then it shouldn't really make much difference if the target node is Plesk Linux or Plesk Windows, should it? A few different commands here and there, but essentially it's the same API.
We're continuing to evaluate it, but duplication of management nodes, mail servers, DNS servers, additional licensing of the extension, Plesk and Windows Server etc makes the general viability of Multi Server questionable in our environment.
If, as it appears, the management node is just issuing commands to the service nodes using the Plesk API and redirecting users, then it shouldn't really make much difference if the target node is Plesk Linux or Plesk Windows, should it? A few different commands here and there, but essentially it's the same API.
We're continuing to evaluate it, but duplication of management nodes, mail servers, DNS servers, additional licensing of the extension, Plesk and Windows Server etc makes the general viability of Multi Server questionable in our environment.
Hi @malfunction
It's not so easy as looks like.
There is a lot of small differences between Linux and Windows Plesk platforms which must be taken into account for providing proper development quality. And it will tremendously increase the costs of the development for mixed infrastructure. Instead of it, we would like to focus on delivering of the main features which are still on the way.
It's not so easy as looks like.
There is a lot of small differences between Linux and Windows Plesk platforms which must be taken into account for providing proper development quality. And it will tremendously increase the costs of the development for mixed infrastructure. Instead of it, we would like to focus on delivering of the main features which are still on the way.
malfunction
Basic Pleskian
I think you mean "it will tremendously increase the costs of the deployment for mixed infrastructure" 
Grant Klaaysen
New Pleskian
Perhaps the Plesk Management Server does not need to keep Windows and Linux nodes in sync but rather treat them as separate pools. A Windows pool with Windows Nodes and a Linux Pool with Linux Nodes. The Service Plans could be linked to a Node Pool.
This way we could at least still have a central management server to manage all the Windows and Linux nodes in one spot.
You may then still be able to do a shared Central DNS and Central Mail across the platforms.
Just a thought.
This way we could at least still have a central management server to manage all the Windows and Linux nodes in one spot.
You may then still be able to do a shared Central DNS and Central Mail across the platforms.
Just a thought.
I agree completely with this, PPA couls easily do it, Hsphere could easily do it surely Plesk with their resources could also manage to have one CP server have the ability to manage two separate service plans for Windows and Linux?
All they need to use is central DNS and allow the Windows pool the ability to support MySQL servers on their Service Plans.
Mail for Windows could probably be shared too but if the only caveat was needing something like SmarterMail for the Windws server then peoply would probably accept that. For the majority of Hosters, Windows usually makes up a much smaller portion of the customer base but it is still essential to support it with the same level of functionality and availability as Linux hosting.
Come on Plesk, your latest releases have been excellent in quality and functionality, you are on to a real winner here with the potential to take all of the small to medium Hoster market as well as the large chunk of the VPS market you already have but you need to really listen to your customers and just as importantly your potential customers.
All they need to use is central DNS and allow the Windows pool the ability to support MySQL servers on their Service Plans.
Mail for Windows could probably be shared too but if the only caveat was needing something like SmarterMail for the Windws server then peoply would probably accept that. For the majority of Hosters, Windows usually makes up a much smaller portion of the customer base but it is still essential to support it with the same level of functionality and availability as Linux hosting.
Come on Plesk, your latest releases have been excellent in quality and functionality, you are on to a real winner here with the potential to take all of the small to medium Hoster market as well as the large chunk of the VPS market you already have but you need to really listen to your customers and just as importantly your potential customers.
malfunction
Basic Pleskian
Was just just running through the Plesk training course for Multi Server and was amused to see this on page 4:
"These difficulties create a need for a centralized management tool that allows web hosting providers to work with their entire Plesk infrastructure from a single control panel"
YES! That's exactly right, somebody gets it, so why build an extension that only enables me to work with less than half of my infrastructure? I note that development has slowed and Windows support has sunk to the bottom of the roadmap now: I can only hope that this is because someone has seen the light and the dev team are now re-factoring the product to provide the mixed infrastructure support that we are all clamoring for.
"These difficulties create a need for a centralized management tool that allows web hosting providers to work with their entire Plesk infrastructure from a single control panel"
YES! That's exactly right, somebody gets it, so why build an extension that only enables me to work with less than half of my infrastructure? I note that development has slowed and Windows support has sunk to the bottom of the roadmap now: I can only hope that this is because someone has seen the light and the dev team are now re-factoring the product to provide the mixed infrastructure support that we are all clamoring for.
