OK there is a new Plesk, but ...

[albatroz]

After reading the announcement of Plesk 8.3 improvements at http://www.swsoft.com/r/pdfs/Plesk/plesk83_whatsnew.pdf
I can see that 90% of the improvements are for the Windows version of Plesk.
Is that Plesk consider that their Linux product is almost perfect?

If you need ideas for improvements, here there are some:
+ When we will be capable of seeing how much diskspace is using each of our email users?
+ Will be ever have support for clamav?
+ Any chances of speed improvement?
+ What about improving the automation tools?
ie. I would like to be capable of massively enabling spam deletion at certain spam score...

 

[hugofromboss]

When is coldfusion 8 support comming I have been without coldfusion for months as CFML 7 MX is not supported by my new 64 bit platform.

 

[nibb@]

I said that 1 year ago. That every new release is 90% focused on Windows. Sw Soft has stop developing the Linux version a long time ago. Just see that people complain about 2 years now that there is not ClamAv, no PostFix, no nothing new support for Linux.

It seems Microsoft has paid a nice check to Sw Soft to slowly kill the Linux Version.

 

[brainlag]

Hi albatroz,

I am sad as you are about the new (non) improvements on Linux version BUT the mail quota can be viewed from plesk > domain name > report > fully report > e-mail !

 

[breun]

After reading the announcement of Plesk 8.3 improvements at http://www.swsoft.com/r/pdfs/Plesk/plesk83_whatsnew.pdf
I can see that 90% of the improvements are for the Windows version of Plesk.
Is that Plesk consider that their Linux product is almost perfect?

If you need ideas for improvements, here there are some:
+ When we will be capable of seeing how much diskspace is using each of our email users?
+ Will be ever have support for clamav?
+ Any chances of speed improvement?
+ What about improving the automation tools?
ie. I would like to be capable of massively enabling spam deletion at certain spam score...

You can use ClamAV and enable server-wide deletion at a certain spam score after installing Atomic Rocket Turtle's qmail-scanner.

What kind of speed improvements are you looking for?

 

[alexmv7]

No new features from Plesk 7.5, very bad.

I see no new features from Plesk 7.5. All remains the same: unusable spam filter, useless qmail build, paid antivirus, VIRTUOZZO spaming. Additionaly FreeBSD installation of Plesk is a puzzle game for system administrator: "try to compile every port by hand and let us know if it works." Yes I can do it. I can add Clamav and recompile qmail, configure spam filter and remove VIRTUOZO spam from every page of control panel. But for what should I pay in this case? What do you mean when you say "NEW RELEASE"? New release of old SWSOFT bugs with a bunch of unusable PAID things. SWSOFT is not a "global leader in virtualization and automation software" as they use to say. Leader can't afford to himself making such products as Plesk 8.3.

 

[bbendix]

Postfix

Hello,

You asked in 8.1 what kind of mailserver the people want. And right now there is now support for Postfix. When will it come?

 

[Hultenius]

I have to agree with you all. Plesk for Windows gets a lot more features and treats than Plesk for Linux. And all that happened since that MS marketing guy came to SWSoft, what a coinsident...

And just take a look at sergius posts (Plesk for Windows guy).
Now that is how it should be, he does a wonderful job.

 

[biznesshosting]

What can we say.... Money Talks.... Linux Walks.

 

[DiLDoG]

I totally agree. Since 7.5 there were almost no significant improvements on linux while the windows version gets more pimped up every time.

Especially the paid - not working spamfilter and qmail are a hell. The virtuoso spamming also doesn't make any sense.

I heared postfix was coming in plesk 9, so they better hurry up.

 

[pippin]

I was hoping on a new PHP 5.2 version so i am considering migrate to Windows,i hate to do it but i feel PHP 5 is more secure

 

[breun]

We run PHP 5.2 on several Plesk for Linux servers. Plesk doesn't upgrade PHP for you, it just uses whatever version of PHP you have installed.

If you run a completely updated and supported system PHP 5 shouldn't make much of a difference security-wise over running PHP 4 as most distributions backport security fixes (see http://www.redhat.com/security/updates/backporting/ for instance). Better make sure you run a decent distribution. If you want additional security, take a look at security tools like Atomic Secured Linux.

 

[pippin]

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[pippin]

Ok but aptitude install php5 installed the packages but still runs on php 4.4.8

 

[breun]

We don't run Debian/Ubuntu, but I believe there are a lot of posts on this forum on how to upgrade to PHP 5 on Debian/Ubuntu.

 

[pippin]

http://forum.swsoft.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=160502#post160502 i made it with this thread so now my server runs on 5.2.0.8 debian etch7

 

[nibb@]

You now all the recent companies that SWsoft bought? Do you know where the money comes? From Microsoft. They will try to put their windows OS as a based on every server. Windows is strong on home PCs,Linux is strong on corporate enviroments and servers.

They way they do is just to make softwares that are 100% windows.

Since Plesk 7.0 SWsoft has not released anything new that we say WOW. But in Windows they are releasing on each new release more support for this, more support for that.

Linux lovers, its time to move away from SwSoft as your vendor, in some next releases you will have a totally useless Plesk for Linux panel and people using Windows Servers will have all the great and new features. Windows servers ****, they use more CPU, more Ram and are totally insecure. I would not change to a Windows server no matter how much many Microsoft gives to SwSoft to support their OS.

Im just going to go with a panel that cares about linux like Cpanel or other new panels that are open source.

SWsoft cannot lie their customers anymore. The mask is off now. Did someone counted how many new features since plesk 7 Windows versions get and how many Linux get? You will be amazed. Why the do they say new version if its only a pack of bug fixes. There is absolutely nothing new on Linux. Same Virtuozzo ads everywhere. Same **** mail server support, same useless Antispam virus. No Antivirus support except for that **** of Dr.Web and Kapersky, both which dont are 10$ of value for what they do.
2 years and nothing.

No ClamAv.
No new Antispam features
No Postfix support
Same Swsoft branding FOR A PAID software.

The only way they are going to change is to hit them where it hurts. Money.
Dont buy Plesk anymore, move away, when they start losing money lets see how many Plesk Linux user they support

This is the perfect change for software vendors to steal thousands of customers from SWSoft. Just make a clone for Plesk, make it better, cheaper and bye we are from here.

Im tyred of th lies they spread now for years. They dont care anything we say. People have complained on forums for at least 2 years now. Really if you are a hosting company and dont want to go broke or start losing customers you should start to make changes. And first think should be to change Plesk for something better. This panel is by no way the 1500$ price value per server. ISPconfig which is FREE has more features on each release.

 

[dcarrero]

And more intregration with other languages, Ruby for example. And apache 2.2 support, lighhttpd support, etc etc

 

[atomicturtle]

This one is probably overlooked, but you can also upgrade installations of web apps through plesk in 8.3. That is nothing less than a major accomplishment.

 

[Superman859]

Now maybe I haven't found it yet, but ever since I've been using Plesk I have never been able to get used to the databases. From what I understand, you are required to make a separate username for each database. While this may be a more secure practice, it poses many problems for certain situations and forces you to open up multiple connections to various databases when you need to work with two databases, even though they are installed on the same server.

Another database issue I haven't figured a way around yet is viewing more than one at a time. It always opens in the same window, and it's a pain to get to them regardless. I was almost a bit excited looking over new features when I saw you could make a URL for the WedAdmin...unfortunately I saw the text after that reading 'Windows Only'