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I need your feedback about Control Visibility!

IgorG

IgorG

Plesk addicted!
Plesk Certified Professional
Guys,

We have a lot of requests from you about Control Visibility reincarnation as it was in Plesk 8.x version. For example:

http://forum.parallels.com/showthread.php?t=99563
http://forum.parallels.com/showthread.php?t=100933
http://forum.parallels.com/showpost.php?p=407982&postcount=1
http://forum.parallels.com/showthread.php?t=90614
http://forum.parallels.com/showthread.php?t=94342
http://forum.parallels.com/showthread.php?t=88167
http://forum.parallels.com/showthread.php?t=101555
http://forum.parallels.com/showthread.php?t=99705
http://forum.parallels.com/showthread.php?t=97957
http://forum.parallels.com/showthread.php?t=92667
http://forum.parallels.com/showthread.php?t=92068
http://forum.parallels.com/showthread.php?t=93544
http://forum.parallels.com/showthread.php?t=93498
http://forum.parallels.com/showthread.php?t=78954

Unfortunately it is very huge investment while most admins I believe would need just few controls hidden and we need to understand which ones. Once we know the list, we will seek what is the best way to manage them.
Therefore, could you please answer in this tread on the following simple question:

Which exactly controls you need to hide and why?

Thank you for your help and cooperation!
 
I have yet only briefly checked trough the controls of Plesk 10. It seems that most of the previous control visibility problems has already been solved by dividing control panel to two seperate interfaces: to traditional frame-based Plesk interface for admins and Small Business Panel based non-frame interface to customers.

I was also happy to notice that you can disable users to create additional domains and register them via Parallels pages from the Service Plans and from the Interface Management settings.

So honestly I believe no bigger investments should not be targeted to Plesk 9 anymore, but to move on to develope only Plesk 10.

However, there still might be some options that should be able to disable in Plesk 10 also if this kind of need arises, but I cannot comment those yet, as we need to go trough the Plesk customer interface more properly. Maybe other admins can comment on those already.. I believe somebody wanted to have an option to disable "featured applications" on the front page at least..
 
I accidently replied to this same thread on Plesk 9 forums, but as my comment is more on Plesk 10, I shall also reply here:

I have yet only briefly checked trough the controls of Plesk 10. It seems that most of the previous control visibility problems has already been solved by dividing control panel to two seperate interfaces: to traditional frame-based Plesk interface for admins and Small Business Panel based non-frame interface to customers.

I was also happy to notice that you can disable users to create additional domains and register them via Parallels pages from the Service Plans and from the Interface Management settings.

So honestly I believe no bigger investments should not be targeted to Plesk 9 anymore, but to move on to develope only Plesk 10.

However, there still might be some options that should be able to disable in Plesk 10 also if this kind of need arises, but I cannot comment those yet, as we need to go trough the Plesk customer interface more properly. Maybe other admins can comment on those already.. I believe somebody wanted to have an option to disable "featured applications" on the front page at least..
 
i want to use appliction catalouge but only with a few, selectable, apps. no parallels store apps and so on. in P10 the only way is to disable application catalouge completly or use it with all apps. thats bad. and i want to disable "features apps" too.
i dont need to hide buttons manually but i want that buttons are not shown when the user has no rights to do something. for example the new "unity mobile feature" in my licence i have NO unity mobile so why i am able to add unity mobile sites to my subscriptions and service plans? grey it out or remove it! why i can add sitebuilder when i have no licence? pls disable it! it confuses many people.
when i disable a feature for my customers i want this feature NOT shown to them in any way! in many cases feature is shown (like unity mobile) and when the user clicks it it shows "you are not allowed" pls make sure thing not allowed in subscription / licence etc are complety NOT shown in any way.
 
Hello lhwparis,

Thanks for your point. Regarding sitebuilder, unity mobile and other "you are not allowed" problems - you'll see it fixed quite soon. :)
 
Sounds good Sergey, looking forward to it:)

Pls make skin support available soon too. In my oppinion it is very important to provide the "look and feel" of our company in Plesk too. And in my oppinion the SMB Panels default skin is not very nice :(

In every Plesk version we get less options to customize. Plesk 8 to 9 the abillity to hide buttons was lost. From 9 to 10 Skin support is completly lost and in every version we get more unwanted and not disableable "paralells advertisement" like "Featured apps in plesk store" ok we can disable it but then we cant use the hole application catalouge...
again, i dont need the abillity to disable buttons manually but when i disable a feature in service plan it has to be removed everywhere! in this customers panel.

So pls give us MORE customization options and more options what we want to provide to our customers or not!
 
And skins are coming too. I mean hoster can develop their own skin/theme so that every customer is in a particular company's look and feel.
 
Hide Mailing Lists Tab

We removed mailman so would like to be able to hide completelty any access to Mailing lists for domain owners including the Mailing List tab ....
 
Buttons On Settings Page In Domain Owners Panels

We've only recently been using Plesk 9.5.3 so apolgoies if we missed this but we would want to be able ti choose which buttons appear on the setting page in the domain owners control panel, there are some things there we'd prefer users not to see or access ...
 
Antivirus Icons

We would like to be able to either remove or chnage the 'Antivirus (None)' and 'Off' from mail account pages, problem is ClamAV is installed on server so we don't want users to think no antivirus protection when there is ... Ideally ClamAV support would be great buy if we could even just remove anti-virus icons from the panel compaletely that would be better than nothing ..
 
IgorG,

Which exactly controls you need to hide and why?
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Easy customization was one of the biggest advantage of Plesk 8. We were able very simple to hide/unhide specific icons for customers. We'd like to see this feature also in Plesk 10 (can be exactly the same).

1. We like admin panel skin in plesk 10. No complaints. Perfect!

2. For customers, we'd like the same (admin layout) skin. SMB Panels default skin looks nice but we prefer admin layout panel skin also for customers. With possibilities to hide/unhide any icon. This is universal solution. No other requests.:)

Thanks.
 
regarding "Hide Mailing List"

energylevel said:
We removed mailman so would like to be able to hide completelty any access to Mailing lists for domain owners including the Mailing List tab ....
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Hello,

If you set "Mailing Lists" limit to zero, you customer shall not see "Mailling List" tab and wouldn't have any access to Mailing Lists even if attempted to follow direct URLs (though this case worked in 8.x with hidden icons).

Would it help?
 
We still have tab showing with Mailings lists set to 0 and ability to manage Mailing Lists set to 'No' Customer can not set up mailing lists but they ask sometimes how to because they can see the Tab and want to know why it is switched off ..... We're using Plesk 9.5.3

mailinglists.jpg
 
Well, on 10.0 if you disable "Mailing lists management" permission (I was wrong saying that setting the mailing lists limit to zero would be enough), "mailing list" tab gets hidden then.
 
OK thanks, we need to look at upgrading to Plesk 10, can Mail, Application and Settings links on left navigation be hidden for Domain Owners as well in Plesk 10 ?
 
Plesk 10 has a completely new ControlPanel for customer now. Theres no Left Panel, have a look at it;)
 
Yes, since 10.0 you can disable "Access to Application Catalog" permission (for particular account or for all accounts via Service plans). It leaves Applications tab visible, but the only available applications would be those you uploaded on the server manually (if any). Starting from 10.1.0 we also provide ability to disable mail management functions in Panel (Settings > Mail Server Settings). As for "Settings" in left navigation bar - we don't have it in Plesk 10 UI at all.

Could you tell more on these topics:
* what was the reason to hide "Settings"? It had assorted configuration options (in Plesk 10 they are positioned closely to a respective service)
* what is the reason to hide Applications completely? It is a convenience tool only, and your customer can still upload these applications manyally. Since 10.1.0 there would be ability to make selected Applications unavailable ("filter").

Regards
 
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