Input Enormous price increases yet again for 2025

[Hangover2]

i am with @seqoi here. Unsere what is the Diskussion Basis: is the Hosting Panel needed for some fun topics or for real business. I don’t think that a free Open Source Tool can be the Basis for critical Infrastructure.

That’s an interesting perspective! Linux and many hosting panels are open source, their use in critical infrastructure is widespread and proven. Linux itself powers a significant portion of global servers, cloud services, and even supercomputers, largely due to its stability, flexibility, and security.

Open-source hosting panels, like others, can indeed be used for real business when implemented correctly. The key lies in choosing a well-maintained tool and combining it with professional support, regular updates, and robust security measures. Some businesses prefer proprietary solutions for specific needs, but open-source tools are at the core of some of the most critical and resilient systems worldwide.

 

[Gary W.]

Guys, I'm not here to sell you my ideas but to share the feelings I experienced after making a change that once felt impossible.

I don't see your point on the "price of creativity".

Let’s start by saying that I’ve been managing and owning websites for many years, and during this time, I’ve spent a lot of money on Plesk. It never really bothered me, of course, because these projects generated a respectable EBITDA, so the expenses for hosting and Plesk were negligible compared to the income.

Over the past couple of years, with the rise of AI, I realized that my €50/month server was oversized for my traffic, as was paying a fee for Plesk. This shift was made possible because, with AI, I’ve been able to directly apply changes to the server — with some hiccups and server crashes along the way. However, thanks to Hetzner snapshots as a safety net, everything has always worked out in the end.

Now, why do I say that paying an ever-increasing fee impacts creativity? Well, because today, there are many more cost-effective and efficient alternatives. Plus, the time and knowledge that were previously out of reach before AI are now accessible to everyone.

So, paying more today feels like a lack of optimization. If you optimize down to the bone, you can save a lot in the process. Money and optimization go hand in hand.

i am with @seqoi here. Unsere what is the Diskussion Basis: is the Hosting Panel needed for some fun topics or for real business. I don’t think that a free Open Source Tool can be the Basis for critical Infrastructure.

If you're on this forum, I assume you have at least some knowledge of servers. The open-source tool I’m referring to (CloudPanel) offers the exact same functionalities as any other panel, and the majority of these are open-source as well. What CloudPanel—and even Plesk—do is package them into a single product.

So, the claim that you can’t have a critical infrastructure using open-source tools doesn’t hold true in reality.

That’s an interesting perspective! Linux and many hosting panels are open source, their use in critical infrastructure is widespread and proven. Linux itself powers a significant portion of global servers, cloud services, and even supercomputers, largely due to its stability, flexibility, and security.

Open-source hosting panels, like others, can indeed be used for real business when implemented correctly. The key lies in choosing a well-maintained tool and combining it with professional support, regular updates, and robust security measures. Some businesses prefer proprietary solutions for specific needs, but open-source tools are at the core of some of the most critical and resilient systems worldwide.

Exactly, I agree with you @Hangover2 . It’s thanks to open-source projects like Linux that the web as we know it today is possible. A world of servers dominated by Microsoft licenses would never have existed. And it’s not about money. It’s about optimization and the desire to learn and experiment (I’ll admit, with the help of AI nowadays).

 

[scsa20]

So I've been holding off on providing my 2 cents since I wanted to think and mull it over for a bit and ultimately yes I think the price hike sucks balls (especially since I've been been using Plesk for many many years, at one point I did stopped using Plesk to use something else just to go back to it a few months later) but I think I'll still stick with it.

I've tried a few control panels in the past including cPanel (I honestly do not like cPanel because of how they do everything that I find it annoying to navigate and use). But the features that Plesk has I, and a few friends that I host on there, actually use. On a few of the sites I have hosted through Plesk uses Sitejet Builder (for example), the WP- Toolkit (the free version, homie ain't gonna pay for no other subscription for a few WordPress sites) is useful for making sure I keep those small handful of instances up to date, etc. So to me the pros completely outweighs the cost (for me) for the the time being. And I'm just a nobody who is hosting a handful of sites for myself and a few friends who has their own accounts so they can do whatever they want with their hosting instance.

I think the extra costs is coming from a few factors that Plesk added over the last few years such as Sitejet Builder (you know how they say that it's free? Ye it isn't, it's now included in the base cost and just not mention it was ) and new sites now has the ability of using a temporary page on plesk.page (to just name a few items).

But ye, it sucks but to me, since the cost isn't too far off for me still at the moment, I'll stay with it. But I do have my max point and if they go past that point then at that point in time I would have no choice but to look for alternatives which I really really really do not want to do.

Again, just my 2 cents.

 

[manni]

That’s an interesting perspective! Linux and many hosting panels are open source, their use in critical infrastructure is widespread and proven. Linux itself powers a significant portion of global servers, cloud services, and even supercomputers, largely due to its stability, flexibility, and security.

Open-source hosting panels, like others, can indeed be used for real business when implemented correctly. The key lies in choosing a well-maintained tool and combining it with professional support, regular updates, and robust security measures. Some businesses prefer proprietary solutions for specific needs, but open-source tools are at the core of some of the most critical and resilient systems worldwide.

You are absolutly right, maybe the way I communicate things is wrong. I am a big fan of open source solution, I am supporting the crowd in it's initiatives. What I want to say is, that Linux has a huge community in regards to support & development.

We typically host 100-150 domains per Plesk server, most of this sites are pretty critical. We need easy to use, multi-language control panels, individual flexible configurations in regards to Anti Spam, Mail configurations, DB configurations, etc.

If I would not need this service for the customers, the easiest way anyway would be Webmin or something like this - or not?

So I've been holding off on providing my 2 cents since I wanted to think and mull it over for a bit and ultimately yes I think the price hike sucks balls (especially since I've been been using Plesk for many many years, at one point I did stopped using Plesk to use something else just to go back to it a few months later) but I think I'll still stick with it.

I've tried a few control panels in the past including cPanel (I honestly do not like cPanel because of how they do everything that I find it annoying to navigate and use). But the features that Plesk has I, and a few friends that I host on there, actually use. On a few of the sites I have hosted through Plesk uses Sitejet Builder (for example), the WP- Toolkit (the free version, homie ain't gonna pay for no other subscription for a few WordPress sites) is useful for making sure I keep those small handful of instances up to date, etc. So to me the pros completely outweighs the cost (for me) for the the time being. And I'm just a nobody who is hosting a handful of sites for myself and a few friends who has their own accounts so they can do whatever they want with their hosting instance.

I think the extra costs is coming from a few factors that Plesk added over the last few years such as Sitejet Builder (you know how they say that it's free? Ye it isn't, it's now included in the base cost and just not mention it was ) and new sites now has the ability of using a temporary page on plesk.page (to just name a few items).

But ye, it sucks but to me, since the cost isn't too far off for me still at the moment, I'll stay with it. But I do have my max point and if they go past that point then at that point in time I would have no choice but to look for alternatives which I really really really do not want to do.

Again, just my 2 cents.

Totally what I mean. We also tried in the past to go away, but if your customers like what they have, they are unhappy when going away.
Easiest topic is MagicSpam: It's one of the most loved products that we currently offer to them. cPanel is - for my understanding - far more expensive. Also, especially in the EU, we have to find partners where GDPR is not a problem. E.g. we here in our country are not allowed, to buy/use some products, e.g. if they are delivered by Russian companies. For ME I don't care, because the political situation is always a separate one, but if you use it for BUSINESS then we have to comply with regulations.

Same BTW for US products, maybe a legal topic but something that you can simply not ignore.

Or am I wrong here?

 

[Gary W.]

Guys, you're all right. I'm the first to love Plesk—it’s been an efficient panel that saved me from manual configurations and saved me time. What I don’t like about Plesk is the monthly formula. And it’s not even about the money itself but the fact that it’s perpetual—I’m forced to pay a subscription until I no longer have a website or until I die. And that doesn’t sit well with me in a society where the average American pays around $1,000 a year on subscriptions.

So I say no, but that’s just my opinion, and I don’t expect everyone to agree with it.